Yamah Super Tenere Valve check, and adjustment, c/w top tip update

Well, I tore into it tonight.  I was going to wait, but after reading, and re-reading the Yamaha manual, I decided to go and do it.

I’ll get this out of the way first.  This is a flat out ignorant way of designing things.  Having worked on a few other bikes.  I have to say, besides the body panels, hinged tank (nice!), air box, and throttle bodies (t.b.) coming off easy, the rest is a royal PITA.  Yam did not leave any room to manoeuver.  To top things off the manual says that you should remove the clutch cover and its odd 27 bolts…seriously?  Luckily some forum members pointed out that the alignment marks are perfectly visible through the access hole for the crank bolt.

In the case of valve check, this does not have to come off.  However, if you’re pulling your cams, it does, as the tensioner needs to come out, and you need to put a screw driver in the motor somewhere (timing chain guide, page 5-22)

Is it possible for this to get any better, scratch that…worse?  Yes, yes it can.    The timing marks on the cam sprockets face to the right of the bike.  You guessed it, right where all the electrical gubbins are.  Brilliant.  So I will do this valve adjustment using the force.

Yes they are only due every 40km, but most of the guys that own these will clock that in 2-3 years.  Quite a few guys elected to skip their initial valve check, but based on past experience, I figured that my ex. valves would be tight.    Might as well sort it out now, if they are out of spec (SPOILER ALERT!!) they are!!, then why not fix it now, put them to the middle of the range, and not worry about the next one.

Right about now the bavarian faithful (boxer boys only) will get on their soap boxes, point and laugh at us tenere owners.  Their valves are easy to do, and take 5 seconds to check, and 7 to adjust.  Granted the boxer is a doddle to do, but luck for me, I have all winter to do this.  Besides, in 37km, I have had no major issues with the bike (well except the final drive seals going, thanks to the swing arm plug falling out about 25km ago, and a shit load of crap, and dust collecting, and wearing down the seal.  The $6 plug should be here any day, and will be super glued, and duct taped in place for good measure).  Would I trade it for a GS for easy of maintenance?  No, not really.  I do all my own work, so it really does not matter.  Besides, I don’t want to get side tracked here beating the reliability horse to death again.

Usual disclaimer as per my other posts.  I’m a muppet, and this is my way of looking at the task at hand.  Read at your own risk.  This is a fairly straight forward job, but with very little room left to work with, and little room for mistakes.

Make sure the bike is as clean as possible.  Mark all male/female connectors if you’re not sure where they go.  Take pictures as you go, I’ll help down the road.

No need for special tools.  You will need an allen key (the old school L shaped one).  As mentioned above, compressed air is your friend.  Clean well around the t.b before pulling them off, as there will be a bit of crud there, that might fall into the intake ports.

Plastics off, tank off (disconnect all elec. and fuel from t.b rail)

Air box off, t.b’s off.  There was some crud at the entrance to the intakes, but I was being careful with the t.b’s. when pulling them off (throttle cables off).

I cleaned up the intakes, covered them with rags, and tie-wrapped the openings, to keep all the crap out.  I then busted out the air gun, and blasted all the crap out of all the nooks and crannies.  Any loose dirt that was around was taken care of.  I marked all my high tension coils and associated cables, unplugged, and set aside.  Again, good blast of air here helps.  The allen bolts that hold the cover in are not accessible by regular socket.  I broke out the dollar store special allen key, and loosened off the front bolts.  Before backing them all the way out, I blasted it with more air.

I loosened up the various metal lines (clutch, and brake), moved the wires out of the way, so I could have as much space as possible to work with.  Even with all that moved, that bastard was tight to get out.  I’m super psyched to try to keep my new gasket intact, when it goes back together.

Valve cover off, I followed the Y manual to find TDC on cyl 1.  Manual says that you will come up to mark K, on the crank, turn 71 deg. to reach mark T.  Then they have the balls to tell you to get your x-ray glasses out, look through all the electrics, plastic tray and the frame to make sure the cam gear timing marks are lined up properly.  Well SHIT!

No matter, I pulled the plugs out of the motor, took a long terminating screw driver, and stuck it into the plug hole in cyl 1.  I found TDC that way, and checked that my T mark was lined up.  Both Cam lobes (in. and ex.) were pointing out, slightly above the engine case.

The valve clearance was checked (three times no less), and found to be tight for the most part (see pictures).

Shim kit is on its way, and I will be pulling the cams out to do the work.

UPDATE!! to an UPDATE!!!!!!!

Super dooper top tip, from my motor rebuild here: 

https://thetenerist.wordpress.com/2017/03/04/yamaha-super-tenere-xt-1200-top-end-rebuild/ 

If my little mind can grasp the yamaha manual, the T mark is only for checking the valve clearance. See page 3-5 and on in manual.
Remember, T mark is TDC on cyl#1. Then you turn it 270 degrees, and you have cyl#2 at TDC.

For shim adjustment.  Set the bottom to K. As per page 5-16. Pull the cams, make sure your camshaft marks are aligned on the case, and the hole on the intake camshaft, aligns with the mark on the intake cam cap (closest to the chain)

To sum up:
THE T MARK IS FOR CHECKING CLEARANCE ONLY!!
THE K MARK IS FOR PULLING CAMS. This is where the top and bottom are in alignment.

Resume scheduled blogging…

Talked to Jaeger22 and Bernie regarding a strange step in the Y manual regarding cams.  PG 5-16 ‘Removing the cam chains ‘ states the following:

  • align the K mark with the crank case mating surface
  • Check the alignment marks on the cam sprockets and cyl. head surface
  • Check that the hole on intake cam match the mark on the intake camshaft cap.
  • Remove the timing chain tensioner
  • Loosen the cam shaft caps from the left to right, in a criss cross pattern
  • Remove intake cam
  • Remove ex. cam
  • Tie up chain out of way

Good, so far… then they tell you to remove the cam shaft sprockets…what the hell for?  If everything is marked (top and bottom) replace the tight/loose shims with proper sizes, put the ex. cam back in (keep the cam chain tight as possible), intake cam back in, make sure your original marks line up, tighten the caps from right to left.  Install the tensioner. good to go.

Whatever.. the cam sprockets do not need to come off! Jaeger, Bernie, and myself are on the same page.  It’s just a step for total disassembly, and has nothing to do with the actual adjustment of the valves.

That out of the way, the cams are in the right position.  Marked the living bejeesus out of the ex. in, and crank gears.   I removed the 4 bolts that hold the electrical tray in place, which gives me a good peek at the timing marks on the ex. sprockets.  While there, I removed the large metal engine mount at the front which will give me better access to the front of the motor.

UPDATE:

Got to it today.  Gears and chain marked.  Tie wrapped the chain to the bottom guides, to keep it in place. Removed the cam chain tensioner, intake cam, and the exhaust cam.  Tie wrapped the chain to the frame so it would not fall down.

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The intake shims were sized anywhere from 205 to 208.  Exhausts were 199, and 198.  I took the intakes down to 205, and the exhaust down to 195.  Replaced the exhaust cam, put the chain over (marks lined up nicely), tightened the cam caps.  I then installed the intake cam, and fitted the chain over.  I started to tighten the caps from right to left.  When I was about half tight, the intake sprocket jumped one tooth.

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Out came the cam again, and this time I moved it back one tooth from the mark.  I tightened the caps down, and the sprocket sat down perfectly on the mark.  I tie wrapped the chain to the intake sprocket in two spots to make sure it did not move further (Yamaha does state to do the same in one spot)

On to the cam chain tensioner.  Good god this was a pain.  You need to press down on the plunger, while turning it ccw.  Once you get close to a cut out groove, you somehow have to fit the supplied snap ring into the groove.  Now if you’re an octopus, this might be an easy job, but for one person to pull this off, it’s an absolute pain.

Installed the tensioner, and then used a large flat blade screw driver to push the left guide against the tensioner, which unseats the snap ring, and sets the tensioner.

I was now ready to spin the motor to check the new valve clearances.  All intakes ranged from .125 to .15.  Exhausts were .23 to .25  Perfect.

Next up the gasket.  I used some gasket maker to first hold the gasket to the cover.  This promptly failed.  I then took the gasket and positioned it on the block, but kept the four rubber holes for the s.plugs on the actual cover.  Carefully placing the cover at a slight angle to the right, eventually produced results.  I slowly placed the new gasket into the grooves of the cover, and made sure the gasket seated correctly all around.  I installed the bolts that hold down the cover.  Torqued to spec.

Below, observations and lesson’s learned.

It’s a pain to do this valve adjustment.  But, if the tolerances are brought right into the middle of the range,  the next service adjustment (80km) can be skipped.

A few tips:

  • Clean the bike well.  Before pulling the t.b, either blast around the back of them with pressurized air or clean them off.  There’s quite a bit of crud that gets trapped back there, and the minute you pull the t.b’s it wants to swan dive into the intake ducts.
  • loosen off the 4 bolts that hold the electrical tray in place.  This will give you a bit of an idea of how the gasket is sitting.  The large bundle of wire is strapped to the frame via a strange plastic clip.  Instead of trying to break that clip, simply cut the electrical tape around the plastic, and that will give you some movement on the bundle.
  • Unclip the three metal lines from the left side of the frame (brakes, and clutch), undo the bolt that holds them to the frame as well.
  • Leave the plugs in for now.  Once the cover is off you can pull all the plugs, as it’s a bit easier, and more accurate to turn the motor to find TDC.  Before pulling the cams, put the new plugs in, so nothing can fall into the motor.
  • When pulling the valve cover and gasket, leave the old gasket on the cover.  It’s solid enough from the factory, and has almost no wear.  It’s easily reusable, and it makes it easier to install the cover and gasket back on.
  • Mark your gears, and associated spot on the chain.  It will give you a clear idea of where things need to go.  When re-assembling, use the tie wrap trick suggested in the Y manual.
  • Cam chain tensioner is a an absolute nightmare.  Who ever designed this POS that requires three hands to put back to gether… I HATE YOU!
  • sync your t.b while the tank is up.  Easy, and makes your bike smooth.

A competent mechanic, should be able to do the check in about 2-2.5 hours.  The adjustment would take longer, probably for a total of 4 hours of labor.  It took me much longer than that.  But the next one would be a hell of a lot easier.  Personally, I’d rather do it myself.  I get to wrench on my bike, and have the satisfaction that it’s been done right, and  that I didn’t drop $600 at the mechanic, and wonder how well the work was done.

PICS BELOW:

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Below: area prepped, ready to work. Wires tucked out of way.

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Above: Intakes cover, and tie wrapped.

Below: Let the fun begin!

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Above: Valve cover ready to be unbolted

Below: Looking to the front of the bike

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Below: harness and misc. wires tied up, and pulled out of way.  cover on its way out

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Above: TDC finder!

Below: My results, written down on a box.  Not good.

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The smurfs go for a ride.

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Well it was too damn cold to ride to work today, so I took captain stinky to work (my golf TDI).
Very promptly at 8 am, I decided that I will work till noon, and go for a ride.
As it happened, Cammy, Richard, BM-Brian, Yves the candy man, showed up at my house, and we headed off to the mountains.  A nice 250 km ride.

I don’t think I have seen this many blue teneres on one ride.
Therefore I decided that we, the citizens of Calgary (and area/province/country/continent), should start a bike club. It will consist of guys on bikes (we’re not picky, but you need to ride half decent, and be able to ride on gravel, oh an we’re not picky on what bits are down there, so guys, girls are good to go)
Preference will be given to people who ride blue teneres (stating the obvious, as it’s the fastest, and bestest tenere ever!!) We shall be called the Smurfs. I have not sorted out who will be papa smurf, grumpy, and the others, but the rule is, that if we run out of names, the last person to join will be errmmm…. the lady Smurf or whatever her name was (think Reservoir dogs, and Mr. Pink).

If this kick ass club gets huge and uber popular (highly unlikely) and  runs out of smurf names, we will have to dive into the WB names (daffy, bugs etc…), or pillage the Disney names (goofy, Donald, and Ms. Piggy, no wait, wrong cartoon set)
Anyways, everyone is free to join, even people with other bikes (yes all you GS-ist are welcome), and even different colored teneres can join.  We will assign names in a different blog, if the need arises (again highly unlikely)

Enough with the written poo. It was a great ride. Probably one of the years best. The weather was amazing (16 Deg C), roads were not busy, and the scenery stunning. If anyone asks.. we didn’t ride powderface trail…no no. That wasn’t us, that was the one-armed man.

Not much to report, bike worked great, had a fantastic time with the other Smurfs, rode, slid, used some throttle, all around a great time.
Did I mention I love the tenere? I really like this bike, this thing grows on me day by day. Don’t really care what the new 2014 looks like. I highly doubt they will change it enough for the majority of us current owners to trade up.

Piiiiics:



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Yamaha Super Tenere 1st generation headlight issue clarification

So, after some head scratching on a Red Cat’s tenere headlight, I figured I’d post a short explanation of what exactly goes on with this electrical critter.

Usual disclaimer….If you happen to read my written drivel, and decide to follow it, and then break it and/or blow it up, don’t blame me  🙂

First off, If you don’t have the Yamaha (aka: Y) repair manual (aka: M), get one, it can be had gratis somewhere on the world-wide web, and is damn handy.

The original design of the Y headlight has four wires going to it, through a male/female connector on the battery side of the bike.  Please reference the picture below.  For simplicity sake, I will write out the wire names as they are shown on the diagram.

The L/R wire goes to the G wire.  This is the 12V for your marker lights.  It powers up with your ignition (aka: Ig), and stays on till the Ig is turned off.

The L/B wire goes to the L wire. This is the 12V for your low beam lights.  It powers on only when the bike is actually turned on (1-2 second delay)

The Y wire goes to the R wire.  This is the 12V for you shutter relays.  It powers on only through the high beam switch.

The last wire is the B, which is the common ground shared by all loads (two markers, two beams, two relays)

I’m a electrician by trade, and I do not pretend to have it all sorted out.  But I will explain the issue as best as I understand it in my squishy brain.

I will explain the issue with a simple light bulb.  For a circuit to work, you need a source voltage (we’ll use 12 V DC), but you also need a return path. Basically a loop.   If any of these two wires become compromised in any way (excessive current which creates heat, moisture, a bad return path etc..) the headlight, and wires will not work as intended.

What happens with the ST set up, is that Yamaha under estimated the draw the over all headlight will have on these 4 wires.  The stock bulbs stress the headlight wire, by using it, and the insulation that protects it to the extreme.  This wire heats up (usually at the headlight connectors, or at the 4 pin connector).   This becomes  worse still, when the marker lights, and the shutter relay (on high beam only) share the headlights return path (ground wire).

Forum muppets like myself that did not know about the problem dig a deeper hole by replacing the stock bulbs with sweet ass 55W jobbies (sylvania silverstar comes to mind).  The stock wiring barely supports the stock bulb, then a higher draw is requested from the wires.  This will end in tears.

I only found out that my connectors were burned to a crisp, when I installed my dual HID kit, moar here: https://thetenerist.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/hid-install-on-the-vfr/

The easiest fix for this issue, is to isolate the headlight lead, and ground, by running a dedicated 12V feed (through a relay mind you), and a ground directly to the headlight harness/HID.

This will avoid any burn wires, breakdowns etc.. down the road.  I’ll break out the crayons and doodle something up.

See attached sketch.  Headlight alternate wiring method

The Idea here is to keep the stock wires up to the female connector intact.  The L wire will need to be cut 3 inches past the male connector, the other three wires remain intact.

The L wire (12V signal) will go to one side of the coil on the new relay.  The other side of the coil will get a new ground wire from the battery.  This ground wire can also be ran to your low beams, or new HID lights.  Install a fused 12V, and wire it to one side of the contact.  The other side of the contact will now give you a proper 12V switched power source, that can go to your headlights/HID lights.

 

Below, page 466  blown up for reference.

headlight extreme close up